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April 04, 2011

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Natalia Erehnah Iwanyckyj

Beautifully said. Non-attachment to solution and resolution is the most challenging part for me. Each step toward empathy brings peace into our days.

kris laroche

Anne...Oh the Universe is going to be smiling at your newfound clarity. What riches will come from that, I wonder...xxoo

kris laroche

6512...Yes. Its a curious thing to see where our motives lie in moments of pseudo-empathisizing. I notice how often it is that I am trying to change someone, something, some feeling and what power there is in NOT trying to change anything at all. xxoo

kris laroche

Hilaree...It would be an honour to have a piece of me on your bathroom mirror. Love to you, friend. xxoo

kris laroche

Hello dear Kara. Thank you for saying so. xxoo

kris laroche

Jennifer...it is so true...
I, too, struggle with betraying myself and my true feelings on the altar of being with a friend in their difficult emotion
Just today a friend called and I found myself in that exact situation of straining to be true to myself and also to hhonour and support her in her dark moment. I moved into commiserating and it felt horrible. It felt untrue to her AND to me. I saw from this experience that I believe others want us to be with them and also to hold a light to something bigger, brighter. I want to trust that when I am struggling that my loved ones will hold their own self strong and not let me or my feelings bring them down into any kind of pit whatsoever. I want them to remain true and to love me where I am at too. It is worthy work, this. Love, k

Jennifer Myers Kaczmarek

So much abundant fruit in this post, kris ... you have really put your finger on something here. I think I will always remember "not another technique" -- that's absolutely brilliant and borne of your deep, true experience.

I, too, struggle with betraying myself and my true feelings on the altar of "being with" a friend in their difficult emotion (whether that be sorrow, or anger, or frustration, etc.). I think that's partially due to my great desire to let others know they are NOT alone, that someone hears and sees them ... and also of many years of my mother (it ALL comes back to mothers, doesn't it?!) expecting me to be fully aligned with HER emotions, not mine.

Your words move me along in a big journey to freedom and authenticity, and I thank you.

Love to you!

kara

Kris,
I read this post last night before bed, and thought about it a lot today. The "not another technique" section really resonated with me. Especially when you said this..."I don't always want to be empathic. Sometimes I am clinging tightly to my own self, not wanting to leave ME and MY NEEDS to energetically visit someone else's point of view. But, when I do, it's something to behold. Ironically, it is what my soul is most longing for in those moments when I am least able to do it."

All I can say is thank you.

Hilaree

LOVELY. Hugely poetic. I think I'm going to print out this post and hang it on my bathroom mirror.

6512 and growing

Okay, I see now that in using empathy I wasn't always, truly empathetic, more like "oh sigh, really kids? Lets move through this one and restore peace."

Re-thinking this now, thank you.

anne

I really like separating connection and commiseration. I sometimes feel like I am betraying myself or my kids by commiserating just to create a connection with someone! I must be totally confusing the universe. great post-thanks!

kris laroche

HI Carrie: I find that part challenging too. I dreamt all last night that I kept interrupting people I wanted to be listening to! xxoo

kris laroche

Hi Kristanne:
Yes...perhaps it would have led to better connection OR maybe in that heated moment (as I often find) the empathy needs to be for yourself. Let him go on and on and release whatever pent up emotions he has in that moment (which could be from who knows what earlier in the day or week) and you just stay totally loving and present towards yourself. Ive noticed, especially with Saschy, that empathy for her in the moment rarely sinks in or has any impact, often even resulting in more fury and name calling towards me. (You are BAD. I feel like shooting you!). Then, later on when she is calmed down we can talk about it and I can create a noticiably stronger connection with her by offering her empathy. She will listen to me and then be SO incredibly loving and affectionate with me. To me, THAT is working. Love to you, friend. You are totally on it.

Kristanne

OK, Kris. Total lightbulb moment re this not being another technique. Yesterday my son was wanting a cupcake before dinner. When I said he could have it afterwards, he would not accept it. This turned into many, many minutes of complaint, and even included phrases like, "You're not a good mummy!" and "I'm going to find a new family because I don't like you!"
I was reminded of Alfie Kohn's example in his book and recommendation to just stop explaining my reasons for refusal. I tried empathy and it did not "work" to stop his complaining. I was just trying to make him stop saying those hurtful things.
Perhaps if my goal had shifted to real understanding of his perspective, we could have had a much better connection.

Carrie

Yep, you have shed some light for me with empathy and my kids.
It sorta sunk in a way that I can't explain.
Thank you
With others I find it challenging to not offer up how I can relate
To stay interested in the conversation when it doesnt some how come back to me---that is my challenge sometimes
This is really inspiring Kris
Thank you
XxxcArrie-anne

kris laroche

Teri...isnt it, though? We are part of something extraordinary. I have goosebumps right now, which is always my signal that the Big Juice is flowing. xxoo

Teri

This is beautiful. I echo Stacey's sentiments... how to be empathetic without being pulled into a state of sadness/fear/whatever the other person is feeling.

I really believe that all of us here reading and feeling and learning are changing the world. It's inspiring.

Natalie

So clearly put. Thank you.

Lu Hanessian

Kris, I shared your beautiful post with parents on my Parent2ParentU Facebook page and your wisdom is resonating and rippling through the world. So profoudn. I love the idea and practice of a "trust fall". This is grace. --xo Lu

kris laroche

Erin...you said even more about what I meant. Thank you for offering your own seeing of this. Love, K.

Stacey

Lots to think about here.

empathy without sacrificing my well-being -- I want to know how to do that.

i tend to suffer with people which does not help them or me. I have a hard time maintaining me when putting myself in someone's shoes.

thanks for posting this -- so much to consider.

erin

I liked the part you wrote about being there for someone else "without judgement or losing faith in them or life, and without stripping one shred of my own well-being away."

Wow, Kris that brought some things to a conscious level for me, that I want to change. Often times, when I offer empathy, i feel like i have to give up my hold on the blessings abundant in my own life, and that if their life is bumpy right now, then somehow offering empathy means hiding the greatness and wonder that i am feeling and experiencing.

I want to be able to hold both: my own sense of wonder and joy, while holding space for their challenging reality and feelings. Without the need to adjust mine accordingly.

Empathy...what a great teacher, and your post was helpful to me today :) Thanks!

Deeper Empathy

What a wonderful post. Thank you

Sharni

Great post! Thankyou

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